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I don't blame anyone for voting Republican when the choice is voting Democrat
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His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2013-06-28 15:44:59 UTC
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| > > How smart are our elders? .....
| > Not very, else there'd been 1000s of times more abortions.
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| I'm afraid the elderly don't abort themselves, but they become more
social conservative. They become more Christian and Conservative, and so
they vote Republican! Imagine, they did everything in their lives and now
become social conservatives.
Like I said, stupid notions based on misinformation. I have always been a
Repub and not the modern neocon version, altho I did register Democrat
once in order to vote against JFK twice. Nor have I ever been Christian -
less as I aged.
I don't blame anyone for voting Republican when the choice is voting Democrat. In other words, there are no real choices.
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| I would rather become more childish and ride a trike.
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Me too, altho it's hard to imagine becoming more of a child. The trike
just lets my failing body keep up with my mind. How many miles did you
ride today?
Sorry, I got my trike 15 miles away in a storage --near a park where I can ride it without worries. It's the "Sun" brand with the very wide seat where you can actually sit back and chill. .

If I brought over it to the beach I would have to deal with pedestrians and cars that tend to ignore me. So walking is the next best option --the only one.

Hey, many people don't have that luxury in America!


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His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2013-06-28 18:43:18 UTC
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Vito, any closer to getting your trike?
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HPT
George Hostler
2001 Kawasaki ZG1200 Voyager XII
Sorry, I'm talking about a pedal trike.

Maybe I should get a real motorcycle or something. How about a nice scooter??

Choices, choices, it's good to have a choices. It hurts though to have so many Toyotas out there. (idiotic drivers)
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2013-06-28 19:58:01 UTC
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| Vito, any closer to getting your trike?
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Yes. It's in the garage with 300 miles on it. The shop couldn't fix
SWMBO's Bad Boy Low wobble (bless their hearts) so she traded it for a
trike then traded the trike to me for my Switchback (Road King Lite).
Trike is a whole new world, takes a lot of upper body exercise. One must
not only steer and hold it into corners but compensate for changing road
camber. Still I'm riding much more and enjoying it even tho it's been
hot and my child bride likes the FX chassis better than the softail. Her
dad passed last xmas and her mother is frail so we cannot go to far from
home for now but might show up on your doorstep one day. Swmbo got into
her racing leathers the other day and is talking about conningTim out of
his Duc for a few laps around Summit Point but we'l see . How's your new
ride?
Hey, same thing with the humble pedal trike. Lots of upper body exercise and still got to pedal!

I think it's better for seniors who want to save their drug cocktails and keep the doctor away.
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2013-07-04 15:05:23 UTC
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On 29/06/2013 20:22, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
Ayn Rand got medical treatment that was covered by Medicare,
despite having enough money to pay for it herself.
Wow, does that prove that people get petty and corrupt as they grow old? Or was her Libertarian image fake all along?
I know this is rather the exception but I know a guy who's a retired civil engineer --petty and mean, who constantly humiliates his helpers and then fires them-- and he votes... Democrat.
Engineers are idiots --arrogant and corrupt, you may say-- but his age has a lot to do with it.
In other words, the elderly shouldn't vote.
I am 63, and still think the revolution will come. Okay, I know with
the rational part of my mind that it won't, but it is something I just
can't shake. Look what's happening on the street................
We believe, like the Bible people, that something is coming soon...

They believe it's Armageddon and we believe it's Revolution.

Actually revolutions are happening all the time, just that we believe that a smart revolution will come this way. It doesn't have to punish the rich or something like that --that's too much to ask-- just that it takes care of the environment and gives us transportation choices at the very least. I want NEVs (Neighborhood Electric Vehicles) and bicycles to take over the streets. Yes, we'll give room to the polluting cars and SUVs as well. Actually, no SUVs...

What do you think, SUVs or no SUVs?
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2013-07-04 18:30:50 UTC
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I know this is rather the exception but I know a guy who's a retired civil engineer --petty and mean, who constantly humiliates his helpers and then fires them-- and he votes... Democrat.
Engineers are idiots --arrogant and corrupt, you may say-- but his age has a lot to do with it.
In other words, the elderly shouldn't vote.
Because they're prejudiced ?
Well, several factors...

1- For the most part they live isolated from reality, living in "gated communities" where the reality of crime and grime is not so hard,

2- They are more easily scared than the young. It would mean they would be scared of change,

3- They live within a "socialist system" where they are much better protected than the population at large. They may be poor but are safe for the most part. They enjoy Medicare, while the rest of the population would have to live with Obamacare, at best.

So they shouldn't rule the way they do. The young had a chance under Obama and got Obamacare. How about that?
Joan F (MI)
2013-07-05 00:50:41 UTC
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That's only the more well to do elderly, the rest live in poor
neighborhoods, are frequent targets of crime and if they are scared it is
rightly so as they are physically unable to defend themselves. If you have
Medicare but can't afford Part B you still can't get all the treatment you
need. And Medicare drug programs are another charge. It's not at all
complete coverage. Social Security by itself is not enough to live on and
this is often the case for those who were low wage workers all their lives.
The old rich guys shouldn't run the country, but no poor person can afford
to run much less win.

His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
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| Well, several factors...
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| 1- For the most part they live isolated from reality, living in
| "gated communities" where the reality of crime and grime is not so
| hard,
|
| 2- They are more easily scared than the young. It would mean they
| would be scared of change,
|
| 3- They live within a "socialist system" where they are much better
| protected than the population at large. They may be poor but are safe
| for the most part. They enjoy Medicare, while the rest of the
| population would have to live with Obamacare, at best.
|
| So they shouldn't rule the way they do. The young had a chance under
| Obama and got Obamacare. How about that?
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2013-07-05 15:25:45 UTC
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Post by Joan F (MI)
That's only the more well to do elderly, the rest live in poor
neighborhoods, are frequent targets of crime and if they are scared it is
rightly so as they are physically unable to defend themselves. If you have
Medicare but can't afford Part B you still can't get all the treatment you
need. And Medicare drug programs are another charge. It's not at all
complete coverage. Social Security by itself is not enough to live on and
this is often the case for those who were low wage workers all their lives.
The old rich guys shouldn't run the country, but no poor person can afford
to run much less win.
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| Well, several factors...
|
| 1- For the most part they live isolated from reality, living in
| "gated communities" where the reality of crime and grime is not so
| hard,
|
| 2- They are more easily scared than the young. It would mean they
| would be scared of change,
|
| 3- They live within a "socialist system" where they are much better
| protected than the population at large. They may be poor but are safe
| for the most part. They enjoy Medicare, while the rest of the
| population would have to live with Obamacare, at best.
|
| So they shouldn't rule the way they do. The young had a chance under
| Obama and got Obamacare. How about that?
Yes you are right, girl. ;)

But even the poor seniors are channeled to vote for issues that don't change their quality of life while ignoring the crime and grime. Let's say they are more easily fooled by cunning politicians. They often live within the confines of their gated communities and are driven in minivans to do their shopping so they are spared the worst of the jungle. When elections come, they come looking for them with buses and the whole atmosphere is festive. It's like the last great event in their lives...

OK --I'm answering myself-- we are facing no other than the "decay of Western Civilization" and the voting crowd --whoever they are-- vote for silly issues like "Obama threatens my Medicare." C'mon, it's time to face the reality of crime and grime:

'Just about every time I walk by the bus stop near my house, I see an empty can or bottle or food wrapper on the ground.

Litter is discouraging, especially this time of year when Memphis is in full bloom. But litterbugs infect the community with something more troubling than trash.

It’s the “broken windows” theory of crime and urban decay. Minor forms of disorder — litter, graffiti, overgrown yards, loitering, broken windows — erode neighborly trust and social cohesion and beget major forms of disorder: vandalism, theft, and more violent forms of crime.

“You start thinking no one’s watching, no one cares. Eventually, no one does care,” said Janet Boscarino, a Cordova mom, recycling fanatic and social entrepreneur who cares deeply.

I pick it up and put it in a trash can 50 feet from the stop. Then I briefly lament the decline of Memphis and all of western civilization.'

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2013/may/19/safe-in-memphis-crime-and-grime-fighters-worth/

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If I recall correctly that's why Rome fell. When an Empire no longer works, things fall apart. The buses don't run on time and the trains don't exist. Litter is all over the place and nobody cares. Go to Norway though. They take no crap or litter for that matter. That's our only hope: The Scandinavian system.

Funny thing is the Barbarians have become civilized and we have become the Barbarians, just a deep passing thought.
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2013-07-07 13:55:33 UTC
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Post by His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
1- For the most part they live isolated from reality, living in "gated communities" where the reality of crime and grime is not so hard,
2- They are more easily scared than the young. It would mean they would be scared of change,
3- They live within a "socialist system" where they are much better protected than the population at large. They may be poor but are safe for the most part. They enjoy Medicare, while the rest of the population would have to live with Obamacare, at best.
So they shouldn't rule the way they do. The young had a chance under Obama and got Obamacare. How about that?
Bullshit.
In all likelihood, the elderly have already faced way
more crime and grime in their lifetimes than you ever
dreamed of. If they "rule", it's only by turning out
and voting. You have the chance to do the same.
Or you could continue whining on the internet.
Your choice.
Here's hoping that if you ever reach old age, people
will have come to their senses and quit handing you
those benefits which upset you so much.
I'm not whining about the benefits, but about the crime and grime. I'm actually exposing how rusty the inner mechanisms of the "elderly voting machine" are and how we can change around and give solutions to the issues.

One possible scenario is that people who receive benefits --elderly and young alike-- are required to participate in the cleaning of their community. Another requirement that we may place on the elderly is that they pass a test before they can vote. It could be questions like "Find Iraq on the map," or "Name some consequences of Climate Change." That's stuff we usually know, unless we tune to Rush Limbaugh. Oh nobody living in a gated community can vote.

Remember the revolution is about solutions. We just got to find a place to practice it, such as Venezuela or something.
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