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Joan F (MI)
2013-07-06 21:23:18 UTC
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His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2013-07-07 05:07:51 UTC
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Post by Joan F (MI)
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I figure that at this rate Pollution will beat our effort to ride a bicycle. It's a race against time and we are doing too little too late.
Indoarsman
2013-07-09 15:47:55 UTC
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Post by Joan F (MI)
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I had to laugh when I saw that Portland was one of the five. I still remember, with pleasure, when a friend from Portland announced with amazement one morning that he had just gotten a ticket for not stopping his bicycle for a stop sign on the way to work.

Indoarsman
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2013-07-09 18:11:35 UTC
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Post by Joan F (MI)
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I had to laugh when I saw that Portland was one of the five. I still remember, with pleasure, when a friend from Portland announced with amazement one morning that he had just gotten a ticket for not stopping his bicycle for a stop sign on the way to work.
Indoarsman
Don't worry, there are lies and statistics. Miami Beach is among the top ten bike friendly places in America. ;)

I hear they can even get you for DUI while riding a bicycle (a cop told me).
Indoarsman
2013-07-12 12:36:05 UTC
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Post by His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Don't worry, there are lies and statistics. Miami Beach is among the top ten bike friendly places in America. ;)
I must rush over there to confirm. I haven't been to Miami Beach since 1959, at which time grown-ups did not ride bikes. 8-)

I do see groups of ciclistas (in cyclista drag) in Coral Gables and Pinecrest on the weekends, when there is less traffic. A ciclista friend of mine in California was in such a group when he was killed by a car on a mountain road.

I commuted to work on a small motorcycle for a few years, until one of the other commuting bikers was killed in a head-on collision with a wayward truck. There's a certain risk. And remember the two ciclistas on the Stanford campus who were both killed when they ran into each other head-on.

There was an Austrian philosopher-priest who lived in Cuernavaca, MX and who maintained that it was antisocial to travel at speeds greater than that of walking.

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Indoarsman
2013-07-12 12:47:53 UTC
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There was an Austrian philosopher-priest who lived in Cuernavaca, MX and who maintained that it was antisocial to travel at speeds greater than that of walking.
That was Ivan Illich.

Indoarsman
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2013-07-12 14:59:53 UTC
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Don't worry, there are lies and statistics. Miami Beach is among the top ten bike friendly places in America. ;)
I must rush over there to confirm. I haven't been to Miami Beach since 1959, at which time grown-ups did not ride bikes. 8-)
I do see groups of ciclistas (in cyclista drag) in Coral Gables and Pinecrest on the weekends, when there is less traffic. A ciclista friend of mine in California was in such a group when he was killed by a car on a mountain road.
I commuted to work on a small motorcycle for a few years, until one of the other commuting bikers was killed in a head-on collision with a wayward truck. There's a certain risk. And remember the two ciclistas on the Stanford campus who were both killed when they ran into each other head-on.
There was an Austrian philosopher-priest who lived in Cuernavaca, MX and who maintained that it was antisocial to travel at speeds greater than that of walking.
Indoarsman
I kind of subscribe to that philosophy, only that I believe riding a bicycle is the speed of life. Otherwise we are a bipedal species. What the bicycle does is take the load off your back (provided you have a cargo bike) and make it possible to cover many more miles than on foot. The golden rule is that a man walks at least two miles or rides 8 miles. A trike is perfect for the elderly and requires more effort. Maybe 4 miles would a good enough.

Bicycling here is a hobby for the middle class boys, not the folks that want to go shopping and be fit. The risk is always there on a bicycle/motorcycle but not that you casually ignore the needs of the weak. To begin with, TRAFFIC NEEDS TO BE TAMED, and that takes speed cameras and enforcement that at the moment is rather predatory in nature. I mean those red-light cameras serve no purpose and cost you something like 160 bucks, not for the working class. And those cops hiding behind the bushes with a speed gun look rather funny --and very ineffective. Perhaps the proles need a vehicle of liberation from it all. That's the bicycle.

(As you may see, I put actual numbers on happiness, give or take a couple of miles but keep moving. "Life's like a bicycle, you have to keep moving not to fall" --attributed to Einstein)
ctowers
2013-07-12 15:32:53 UTC
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On Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:59 AM, His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most
Post by His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
(As you may see, I put actual numbers on happiness, give or take a couple of miles but keep moving. "Life's like a bicycle, you have to keep moving not to fall" --attributed to Einstein)
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving.
~ Albert Einstein, letter to his son Eduard, 1930

Inspirational Bicycle Quotes -
http://www.theargonauts.com/bicycle-quotes/
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2013-07-13 15:40:27 UTC
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Post by ctowers
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving.
~ Albert Einstein, letter to his son Eduard, 1930
Oh, ye of little balance.
Indoarsman
If only old people remembered that to the very end.

Some forget in their twenties. It ain't easy anyway. The easy path presented by the system is the couch potato. I saw an article yesterday that confirms my point.
His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2013-07-14 16:14:34 UTC
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On Sunday, July 7, 2013 5:12:22 PM UTC-7, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most
I would like to come out with a machete to defend myself against mad
drivers.
And I think I speak for all of us when I say we really wish you'd try it.
There was an occasion when I driver spit in my face where I'd have used
a machete.
And he was wrong in blowing the horn trying to play vigilante where I
was legally riding a bicycle. I gave him the finger and he was adamant
to beat me up. It's not the kind of fun I look forward to.
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A little courtesy goes a long way. In this example, "legally" riding
your bike in the middle of the lane, thus needlessly slowing down
people, makes you and other bicyclists look bad.
Now, had you moved over and let these folks get to where they were
going, you wouldn't have to worry about fingers or spit or horns or
vigilantes.
Instead you decided to be a pain in the ass, and were rewarded for your
efforts.
Try courtesy. It works miracles.
CS
Do you really think a motor vehicle (other than a scooter or motorcycle,
of course) and a bicycle can fit safely in the same (normal width) lane?
Taking up enough of the lane to prevent this from happening is the
correct thing to do on a bicycle, and is not intentionally blocking
traffic [1] for the sake of making a political point.
[1] Which does happen at events such as Critical Mess, er Mass, but that
is no justification for all pedal cyclists to put themselves in
unnecessary danger.
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Critical Mass is for middle class kids playing revolution. They create more backlash than make a point. They often block the road and you know all the chaos it creates.

TAKING THE LANE though makes all the sense in the world:

1- You are visible. It's not like "Sorry I didn't see him/her!"

2- You and your sweetheart can ride together. It's been times that I've been distracted trying to look back and other times my GF has been several blocks behind me, one time walking the bike with a flat. Besides you need to share the scenery and the world however ugly it may be.

3- You don't need infrastructure for the most part. Yes, you may slow down and proceed at a red light or stop at your own risk.

4- You can go everywhere a car goes.

5- SAFETY --your fragile physique is next to vehicles many times your weight and any mistake can cause death and injury. Think how idiotic that "Three feet... It's the Law!"

It would create the need for certain responsibilities as well, such as bright clothing and lights. Maybe a light training followed by a "license" would be smart. Not every monkey should be left on the road. Well, the same goes for drivers. There are too many idiots behind the wheel of a Toyota.
f***@earthlink.net
2013-07-21 19:42:02 UTC
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Post by Joan F (MI)
http://www.care2.com/causes/5-cities-where-bikes-are-taking-over.html
I rarely see bike riders bothering about stop signs.
And red lights..only if they see a car comming

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