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Is God nothing or less than nothing?
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Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2015-04-08 01:42:42 UTC
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Being and Nothingness.
you want your God to be true .
that is your brain 's desire .
Others have doubts about your God , or God s in general .
I doubt , there fore I am , am thinking , and am existing .
Is god nothing or is he less than nothing?

This is a very tricky question. I'd argue my reasoning:

nothing = zero, and less than nothing means a negative number, which multiplied by another negative number, would be positive, meaning god is something.

He's nothing, period. Am I wright or wrong?


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59Fiat600 Rossa
2015-04-08 03:26:40 UTC
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Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
He's nothing, period. Am I wright or wrong?
I'm very sorry, but you cannot say that something is nothing. You can only say that something is something. It is only possible to discuss something whose existence has in some way been recognized. For example, the Jabberwocky is the name of a poem and the name of the creature described in the poem. Within the context of the poem, the Jabberwocky exists. I would not be surprised to learn that there are scholars who are experts on the Jabberwocky. Confidentially, I do not concern myself with scholars, and so I do not concern myself with the Jabberwocky. I am content to concern myself with sunlight, air, and water.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2015-04-08 05:13:29 UTC
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Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
He's nothing, period. Am I wright or wrong?
I'm very sorry, but you cannot say that something is nothing. You can only say that something is something. It is only possible to discuss something whose existence has in some way been recognized. For example, the Jabberwocky is the name of a poem and the name of the creature described in the poem. Within the context of the poem, the Jabberwocky exists. I would not be surprised to learn that there are scholars who are experts on the Jabberwocky. Confidentially, I do not concern myself with scholars, and so I do not concern myself with the Jabberwocky. I am content to concern myself with sunlight, air, and water.
Let's put an example we all are familiar with: the loch ness monster. Is he something or nothing? We come as close as a picture we suspect is false, but still looks like something. What is that something? Is that something something or is that something nothing?

Now, is god something or nothing?
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2015-04-08 13:33:24 UTC
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Gos is emptiness , a Black Hole .
An abstract idea .
God is just an idea in your brain ,
you can't see God outside your brain , nor touch outside your brain .
So what is the Bible, the Holy Book about nothing?
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2015-04-08 13:42:25 UTC
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Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Gos is emptiness , a Black Hole .
An abstract idea .
God is just an idea in your brain ,
you can't see God outside your brain , nor touch outside your brain .
So what is the Bible, the Holy Book about nothing?
OK, you have fallen in your own contradiction. The Bible is SOMETHING but that doesn't mean it means SOMETHING. Many Christians argue "it's in the Bible," but that means NOTHING.

I don't think we should fall for something so simple.
High Miles
2015-04-08 15:17:08 UTC
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Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Gos is emptiness , a Black Hole .
An abstract idea .
God is just an idea in your brain ,
you can't see God outside your brain , nor touch outside your brain .
So what is the Bible, the Holy Book about nothing?
Borrowed, stolen, altered tales and outright fabrications.
Male bovine excrement.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2015-04-08 16:22:57 UTC
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Post by High Miles
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Gos is emptiness , a Black Hole .
An abstract idea .
God is just an idea in your brain ,
you can't see God outside your brain , nor touch outside your brain .
So what is the Bible, the Holy Book about nothing?
Borrowed, stolen, altered tales and outright fabrications.
Male bovine excrement.
That's pretty accusations against something so Holy. People swear on the Bible in court, in office... I know, I know, they lie a lot, way too much.

Do we need to change the Bible for something else, what?
Free Spirit, Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
2015-04-08 16:28:50 UTC
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Post by High Miles
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Gos is emptiness , a Black Hole .
An abstract idea .
God is just an idea in your brain ,
you can't see God outside your brain , nor touch outside your brain .
So what is the Bible, the Holy Book about nothing?
Borrowed, stolen, altered tales and outright fabrications.
Male bovine excrement.
That's pretty big accusations against something so Holy. People swear on the Bible in court, in office... I know, I know, they lie a lot, way too much.

Do we need to change the Bible for something else, what?
High Miles
2015-04-08 15:14:55 UTC
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Post by 59Fiat600 Rossa
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
He's nothing, period. Am I wright or wrong?
I'm very sorry, but you cannot say that something is nothing. You can only say that something is something. It is only possible to discuss something whose existence has in some way been recognized. For example, the Jabberwocky is the name of a poem and the name of the creature described in the poem. Within the context of the poem, the Jabberwocky exists. I would not be surprised to learn that there are scholars who are experts on the Jabberwocky. Confidentially, I do not concern myself with scholars, and so I do not concern myself with the Jabberwocky. I am content to concern myself with sunlight, air, and water.
Let's put an example we all are familiar with: the loch ness monster. Is he something or nothing? We come as close as a picture we suspect is false, but still looks like something. What is that something? Is that something something or is that something nothing?
Now, is god something or nothing?
Gods are a fabricated concept.

How's that ?
59Fiat600 Rossa
2015-04-09 00:25:32 UTC
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Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Let's put an example we all are familiar with: the loch ness monster.
Nessie. "Il Mostro di Loch Ness, soprannominato anche Nessie, รจ una creatura leggendaria che vivrebbe nel Loch Ness, un lago della Scozia. Well, a legendary creature then. So Nessie exists in legend. That's why he has a name.

"Ad oggi tuttavia non esiste alcuna prova dell'esistenza del cosiddetto "mostro"." Whoever it is that I'm quoting, he has no imagination.


e alcune foto che lo ritrarrebbero sono state dimostrate false o non sono ritenute particolarmente significative dal punto di vista scientifico.

Is he something or nothing? We come as close as a picture we suspect is false, but still looks like something. What is that something? Is that something something or is that something nothing?
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Now, is god something or nothing?
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2015-04-09 01:49:23 UTC
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On Wed, 8 Apr 2015 09:26:02 -0700 (PDT), "Wise TibetanMonkey, Most
Post by Free Spirit, Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
On 4/8/2015 8:33 AM, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 6:58:39 AM UTC-4, Kaveh AFRASIABI ,
Gos is emptiness , a Black Hole .
An abstract idea .
God is just an idea in your brain ,
you can't see God outside your brain , nor touch outside
your brain .
So what is the Bible, the Holy Book about nothing?
Borrowed, stolen, altered tales and outright fabrications.
Male bovine excrement.
That's pretty big accusations against something so Holy. People swear on
the Bible in court,
in office... I know, I know, they lie a lot, way too much.
Do we need to change the Bible for something else, what?
..absolutely...I vote for Grimm's fairy tales...just as valid as the
Bible without all the rape, pillage, stonings, witch burning enslavement
and genocidal atrocities.
Ahem! There's at least one witch burning in Grimms' fairy tales.
Remember that Hansel and Gretel pushed the witch into her own oven.
Well, let's see. We need some book that prevents lying...

How about Pinocchio?

People would know not to lie if their nose grows. The Bible on the other hand is full of lies. Perhaps we can prevent half the lying in the world.

I hope you see the wisdom in my words.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2015-04-09 05:09:05 UTC
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"Wise TibetanMonkey,
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Well, let's see. We need some book that prevents lying...
How about Pinocchio?
People would know not to lie if their nose grows.
The Bible on the other hand is full of lies.
Perhaps we can prevent half the lying in the world.
I hope you see the wisdom in my words.
Truly The Sons Of
Nothing is Wiser
Use the Dam
The Boy Scout Handbook
"I solemnly swear by Pinocchio to tell the Truth and nothing but the Truth. So help me the Blue Fairy."

I think the extra wording is unnecessary.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
2015-04-10 00:06:30 UTC
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On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 18:47:48 -0700, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble
Post by Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
On Wed, 8 Apr 2015 09:26:02 -0700 (PDT), "Wise TibetanMonkey, Most
Post by Free Spirit, Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
On 4/8/2015 8:33 AM, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 6:58:39 AM UTC-4, Kaveh AFRASIABI ,
Gos is emptiness , a Black Hole .
An abstract idea .
God is just an idea in your brain ,
you can't see God outside your brain , nor touch
outside your brain .
So what is the Bible, the Holy Book about nothing?
Borrowed, stolen, altered tales and outright fabrications.
Male bovine excrement.
That's pretty big accusations against something so Holy. People swear
on the Bible in court,
in office... I know, I know, they lie a lot, way too much.
Do we need to change the Bible for something else, what?
..absolutely...I vote for Grimm's fairy tales...just as valid as the
Bible without all the rape, pillage, stonings, witch burning
enslavement and genocidal atrocities.
Ahem! There's at least one witch burning in Grimms' fairy tales.
Remember that Hansel and Gretel pushed the witch into her own oven.
Well, let's see. We need some book that prevents lying...
How about Pinocchio?
People would know not to lie if their nose grows. The Bible on the other
hand is full of lies. Perhaps we can prevent half the lying in the
world.
I hope you see the wisdom in my words.
All 'holy' books are full of lies. Get rid of them all.
Well, the Holy Books have their purpose: To instill fear of God's punishment. The problem is all crooks know the trick. ;)

Others simply think the Bible is a license to lie by manipulating the facts.
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